THE DEITY OF Y’SHUA

The question of Y’shua’s deity (or lack thereof) is of HUGE importance to any believer.  We all need to be sure in our own minds of our own stand.  My husband and I have come back to this topic a number of times, but so far we have found nothing that convinces us that Y’shua was not “God With Us.”  On the contrary, both the Tanakh (Old Testament) and the B’rit Chadashah (New Testament) appear to confirm His deity.    Below you will find a collection of passages I have examined – some are given without comment, while others are accompanied by my reasoning, since my reasoning is sometimes difficult to follow.  😉

I am going to say something a little heretical here:

I believe that the epistles were just that – letters or written sermons – and that they are subject not only to misinterpretation, but that the authors were human and subject to human error.  Top that off with literally centuries of translators and copyists with agendas, and ….. You get the picture.

Do we have the real truth?  I want to KNOW, and I am sure you do, too.

How can I even begin to think that the apostles might be subject to error?  Well, for one thing, they were human, just like you and me.  They had to “GROW in Grace and Truth“, just like you and me.  (2 Pet 3:18)  For example, YEARS after Y’shua’s death and resurrection, Peter was still avoiding contact with Gentiles in the belief that they were not welcome in YHVH’s Kingdom.  He must certainly have been teaching this ‘doctrine’ to others during those years, since he was one of the main teachers, and people certainly would have questioned him on the subject.  After years of rejecting Gentiles, Peter had to be given specific revelation to show him his error.  (Acts 9 and 10)

We are fortunate that the record of Peter’s experience was recorded and passed down.  In contrast, we have no way of being certain that Paul didn’t write OTHER letters that said something along the line of, “Guys, you know when I said thus and such?  Well, I was wrong.”  (Ex: He claims that a woman’s long hair is her glory and that she should not wear it short like a man’s.  [1Cor 11:13-15]  To date, I have not been able to find a Torah instruction pertaining to this matter – it seems to have been a Semitic cultural practice, not a matter of faith.  Did he ever get that straightened out as he ministered to other cultures that did not require their women to wear long hair?)

There are certain statements Paul made that do not agree with scripture. (For example, a statement he makes in Romans can be understood to say that we are not guilty of sin unless we are aware of the law stating that a particular behavior is sinful.  For without the law sin was dead.  For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.  (Rom 7:8b-9)  Leviticus, on the other hand, tells us And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of YHVH; though he wist [knows] it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity. Leviticus 5:17)

So, concerning the deity of Y’shua, there is just a very slim chance that the apostles, in their devotion, got a little carried away regarding Y’shua’s divinity.  At this point, I can’t see validity to that stand, but it seems possible.

The main reason that I can’t accept a doctrine of mere humanity for Y’shua is that I KNOW HIS VOICE.  He is IN my life!  How does a mere man accomplish that?

At any rate, this topic is not a closed topic – I want TRUTH, not tradition.  If you want to share information or if you have thoughts on this topic, you are most welcome to share.

Passages which appear to specifically and unequivocally state that Y’shua is Deity:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.  John 1:1

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Messiah. For in Messiah all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Messiah, who is the head over every power and authority. Col 2:8-10

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Y’shua: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Phil 2:5-8

Note: Not only does this scripture state that Y’shua thought Himself the equal of God, it goes on to state that Y’shua ‘made Himself of no reputation’ and ‘humbled Himself‘ – He was not assigned the task of redemption, but gave the task to Himself.   He took upon Himselfthe form of a servant.” This would have been not only presumptuous of Him if He was not Deity, but even impossible and evil – He would have been usurping the authority of YHVH. The fact that He voluntarily took the task upon Himself also indicates that the decision was made while He was still in the spiritual realm, with the results of the decision (His birth) merely becoming manifest in the physical realm. Had He been only Man, He would simply have been naturally conceived and would then have been assigned His task, like John the Baptist and the prophets.

And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, [Messiah speaking] “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” He said to me: “It is done. [Ref: John 19:30] I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. [Ref: Rev 1:8, Rev 1:11, Rev 22:13] To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. [Ref: John 4:10] He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.” Rev 21:3-7 [All references are Y’shua’s own claims regarding Himself.]

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Hbr 2:16

The implication of this verse is that He was pre-existing, selected His own form, and that He could have selected any form in which to come to us.

Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? And the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Y’shua answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Y’shua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Y’shua hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:52-59

The Jews knew very well what verse of the Tanakh (Old Testament) Y’shua was referring to (Exd 3:14 below) – it was a well-known passage.  By saying the Jews ‘took up stones to cast at him,’ the gospel author is telling us that the Jews considered Y’shua’s statement to be blasphemy because they understood that He was equating Himself to God.

See also: And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exd 3:14

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Y’shua, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Y’shua saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. And many other signs truly did Y’shua in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Y’shua is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:26

Y’shua did not rebuke Thomas for calling Him GOD, but instead commended him for believing.

In His [Messiah’s] days Judah will be saved, And Israel will dwell safely; Now this is His name by which He [Messiah] will be called: YHVH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Jer 23:6

Behold, a virgin [maiden] shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Mat 1:23  [ref: Isaiah 9:6, below]

I and my Father are one. John 10:30

But Y’shua remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” Yes, it is as you say,” Y’shua replied. “But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”  Mat 26:63

The High Priest’s response is to rend his garments in horror at this blasphemy.  When he asks the other priests, they agree that this is indeed blasphemy.  He has made Himself equal to God.

NOTE:   There is another possible interpretation to this entire event.  Y’shua’s response, as recorded in Greek, is that He will sit ‘at the right hand of the Mighty One…”  However, scholars are now beginning to acknowledge that the lingua franca of the Jerusalem Jews was Hebrew, and if that is so, then Y’shua would have been speaking Hebrew, not Greek, to the priests.  His words, later translated into Greek, may have been ‘politically corrected’ by the copyists.  (In fact, since Y’shua appeared alone before the priests, it makes one wonder how the event was recorded at all….)

It is possible that what Y’shua actually said was, ‘at the right hand of Yehovah‘  According to biblical Hebrew scholar Nehemia Gordon, the Name was still pronounced aloud during Y’shua’s lifetime, but only during Temple worship or when the Tanakh was read aloud.  It was one thing for a madman to claim he was the Messiah, but for Y’shua to use the Name apparently so cavalierly and personally would conceivably have been ‘too much’ for the priests.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful [Heb פֶּלֶא, pele’: incomprehensible], Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6

See Psalm 139:6, in which the same word pele’ is used – Such knowledge is too wonderful for me, too great for me to understand!

But you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you YHVH, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name. Isa 63:16

See Isa 44:6 – Thus saith YHVH the King of Israel, and his [Israel’s] redeemer, YHVH of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

See also Rev 22:13 – I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn [legal term indicating the right of possession] over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:15-17

And He [Y’shua] is the radiance of His [YHVH’s] glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. Hebrews 1:3a

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:   Rev 22:3

One throne….

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Y’shua Messiah.  This is the true God, and eternal life. 1Jo 5:20

Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? Who hath told it from that time? Have not I YHVH? And there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Isa 45:21-22

COMPARE WITH: Acts 4:10-12  – …then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Y’shua Messiah of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. He is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone. Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.  Acts 4:10-12

But Y’shua answered them, My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:17-18

Y’shua knew how they would receive His words. Being fully honest and truthful, had He not meant them to understand Him to be saying He was equal with YHVH, He would have chosen another way to make His statement.

Y’shua claimed to have come directly from Heaven, unlike mortal men:

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:38

Our own research indicates that humans and/or human spirits DO NOT originate in or go to live in the Heavenly realm, though they may have access to the Throne for purposes of worship.  If this is true, then the fact that Y’shua ‘came down from heaven’ indicates that He is of heavenly origin – either angelic or divine.

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even [which is to say] the Son of man which is in heaven.  John 3:13

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.  [Grk: pantokratōr: he who holds sway over all things, the ruler of all, almighty: God.]

COMPARE WITH –  Thus saith YHVH the King of Israel, and his redeemer, YHVH of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:6

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. John 17:5

And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this worldJohn 8:23

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LORD OF LORDS

Y’shua is given the title of LORD OF LORDS, a title which the OT says belongs to YHVH.

For YHVH your Elohim is God of gods [Elohim of Elohim], and LORD OF LORDS [adon of adonim], a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:  Deut 10:17

O give thanks to the LORD OF LORDS: for his mercy endureth for ever. Ps 136:3

The same title is applied to Messiah in the Book of Revelation.

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war…. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God [ref John 1:1]On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. Rev 19:11, 13, 16

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.  Rev 17:14

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The Son of God
When Y’shua calls Himself “The Son of God,” He is claiming deity for Himself:

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [Grk: Theos] Y’shua saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.  And many other signs truly did Y’shua in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Y’shua is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:26-31

Note: The Apostle’s comment (‘Y’shua is…the Son of God…’) immediately following his recording of Thomas’s statement about “my God” makes it clear that the apostle equated the titles Messiah and Son of God with Y’shua’s status as Deity.]

But Y’shua remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” Yes, it is as you say,” Y’shua replied. “But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy! “What do you think?” They answered and said, “He is deserving of death.” Mat 26:63

For Y’shua to say that He was ‘Messiah’ was not blasphemy to those who believed that Messiah would be a man: He might be mistaken, according to the religious leaders, but it was not blasphemy. However, the religious leaders understood that Y’shua’s disciples equated the term Messiah with deity, and Y’shua’s statement that He was the Son of God confirmed this understanding. (See John 5:17-18)  Ultimately, it was Y’shua’s agreement that He was the Son of God that earned Him the condemnation of blasphemy.  By saying that He was the Son of God, Y’shua was assigning Himself divinity, and the High Priest understood that.  The other religious leaders also recognized what Y’shua’s claim meant, which is why they agreed that He should be condemned to death for such severe ‘blasphemy.’

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Y’shua is the Messiah?  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].  1Jo 2:22-23

Whosoever shall confess that Y’shua is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 1Jo 4:15

When Y’shua came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Messiah, the Son of the living God. And Y’shua answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.  Mat 16:13

Then those who were in the boat worshipped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Mat 14:33

Peter was one of those who worshipped Y’shua in the boat despite the fact that all of the apostles were fully aware of the scripture which says (Ex 34:14) For thou shalt worship no other god: for YHWH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. And Y’shua, equally aware of that scripture, accepted their worship.

In contrast, in Acts 10:25, 26, we find this account: And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. Peter obviously felt that Y’shua was deity – more than man – and therefore entitled to worship, whereas he – Peter – was merely human and not entitled to worship.

They all asked, “Are you then the Son of God?” He replied, “You are right in saying I am.” Luke 22:70

… First, his name [Melchizedek] means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever. Heb 7:2, 3

It can be argued that the only comparison being made between Melchizedek and Y’shua is that they both will remain priests forever, but I believe from the greater context of the epistle that the two are being compared in all ways and perhaps are even being equated to one another. Only Deity is ‘without beginning of days or end of life’…

However, according to Jewish colloquialism, it may be that the description “without father or mother, without genealogy” is actually referring to the fact that Y’shua was a priest despite His not having been descended from Levi and Aaron.

Originally, the first born son of a family was the priest of the family.  Thus, ALL families included priests.  It was not until the wilderness experience that all the families (except that of Levi) demonstrated unholy behavior (worshiping an idol dedicated to YHVH, Exodus 32).  In response, YHVH removed the privilege of priesthood from the other families and gave it exclusively to the family of Levi.  With Y’shua, the original priesthood has been restored!  He is the High Priest (the first born) and His disciples are His “under priests.”

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.  Whosoever shall confess that Y’shua is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 1Jo 4:14-15

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Son of Man

Y’shua used the term The Son of Man to emphasize His empathy with Man and His voluntary physical identification with Man, yet even when using this title for Himself, He still reminds us that Man has victory in Him BECAUSE Y’shua is Deity and will rule for Man’s benefit.

But Y’shua held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Messiah, the Son of God. Y’shua saith unto him, Thou hast said [colloquialism for ‘you said it!’ or ‘that’s right!’]: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? Behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. Mat 26:63-66

In this version of the trial, Y’shua is accused of blasphemy once more because His claim to be “sitting on the right hand of power” could only mean that He was claiming Divine Authority for Himself.

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Messiah

The apostles also equated the title MESSIAH with Y’shua’s status as Deity.  Since Y’shua heard them use this term and He did not correct them, it can only be understood to mean that He agreed with their interpretation.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Y’shua is the Messiah?  He is anti-messiah, that denieth the Father and the Son [of God]. Whosoever denieth the Son [of God], the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son [of God] hath the Father also]. 1Jo 2:22-23

And every spirit that confesseth not that Y’shua Messiah is come in the flesh [implied: not His original state] is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-Messiah, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1John 4:3

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [Grk: Theos]  Y’shua saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.  And many other signs truly did Y’shua in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Y’shua is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:27-31

The apostle’s comment (Y’shua is the Messiah…) is made immediately following his recording of Thomas’s statement ‘My Lord and my God’, making it clear that the apostle equated the titles Messiah and Son of God with Y’shua’s status as Deity.

The Book of Life

The Old Testament informs us that YHVH has a Book of Life in which He records the names and deeds of those who are slated for His Kingdom. The Book of Revelation refers to this as the Lamb’s Book of Life, equating Y’shua with YHVH.

Save me, O God, for the waters have come up to my neck. … May they [the wicked] be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous. Psa 69:1, 28

Your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. Psa 139:16

But now, please forgive their sin–but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.” YHVH replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. Exd 32:32,33

What appears to be the same book – now called The Lamb’s Book of Life – is referred to the Book of Revelation:

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. [ref Rev21:27]   The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.  Rev 20:11, 12

Nothing impure will ever enter it [New Jerusalem], nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of lifeRev 21:27

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“DIFFICULT” PASSAGES

QUESTION:  We can never be deity, yet Y’shua says that we are to be ‘one’ in Him and the Father.  Doesn’t this imply that He, in turn, is not deity, although He is ‘one’ with the Father?

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  John 17:21

REPLY: This verse must be read while keeping in mind the clear message of the other verses, i.e. that Y’shua states unequivocally in other verses that He is God. In this passage, He is referring to oneness of mind and heart which He mentions several times in John 17.

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QUESTION:  In Romans 14:11, every tongue is confessing TO God.  In the Philippians verse, every tongue is confessing [implied: to God] THAT Y’shua is Lord. Doesn’t this mean that Y’shua reigns as YHVH’s representative, but not that He is Deity Himself?

But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother?  For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Messiah.  For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Rom 14:10-11 [ref Isa 45:23, below]

By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. They will say of me, ‘In YHVH alone are righteousness and strength.'” All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame. Isa 45:23,24

Compare to –  Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Y’shua, every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Y’shua Messiah is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:9-11

But of him are ye in Messiah Y’shua, who of God is made [Grk: γίνομαι, become] unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 1Cr 1:30

Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Y’shua Messiah, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Y’shua Messiah: 2Pe 1:1

REPLY: It is important to read Phil 2:9-11 in the greater context of the book of Philippians.  Immediately prior to 2:9, we find another extremely significant passage (Phil 2:5-6): Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Y’shua: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God…. This tells us plainly that Y’shua considered Himself to be Deity.

This makes Him worthy of worship, so next we read (verse 9) that Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name. YHVH does this because, by becoming incarnate, Y’shua had voluntarily “made Himself of no reputation.” (Phil 2:5)  YHVH will make sure that Y’shua receives the honor He deserves!  Finally comes the passage which states that, because YHVH has exalted Y’shua, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Y’shua Messiah is Lord – a word which, in the New Testament, appears to be a code word or euphemism indicating Y’shua’s status as Deity.

The entire passage of Phil 2:5-11 is building a case that Y’shua is Deity and will be worshipped as such when He comes into His Kingdom.

The original Isaiah passage being quoted in Philippians is striking:  It clearly states that the confession will be that only YHVH is righteous and strong.  Yet Phil 2 applies the Isaiah passage directly to Messiah, and 1Cor and 2Peter both say that this same acknowledgement regarding righteousness will be given to Y’shua.

We are not to worship anyone but YHVH (Ex 34:14, etc.), and yet in these passages, we are told that YHVH will be worshipped and that Y’shua will be worshipped, leaving no explanation except that they are one and share the same nature.

For thou shalt worship no other god: for YHVH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Exd 34:14

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Y’shua is the light of the world…

The Ancient Hebrew Scriptures consistently use the concept of light to describe YHVH and His Ways.  In the New Testament, we are told that Y’shua is the Light of the World.  Y’shua Himself said that He is ‘the Way, the Truth, and the Light.’

You, YHVH, are my lamp; YHVH turns my darkness into light. 2 Sam 22:29

YHVH is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? YHVH is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?  Palm 27:1

For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light. Psalm 36:9

O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of YHVH. Isaiah 2:5

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.  Isaiah 8:20

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of YHVH is risen upon thee. Isaiah 60:1

The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but YHVH shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for YHVH shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. Isaiah 60:19-20

Compare to Rev 21:3-27 –  And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.” … I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life. [refer back to Rev 20:11, 12]

Hebraic prose customarily reiterates an important point, stating it in two different ways. Here, “God is the light” and “the Lamb is its light” are two statements of the same fact: In the same way, the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.   . . . the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 

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The Concept of ECHAD: unity of multiples; sharing the same properties/nature

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one [Heb. echad] flesh. Gen 2:24

Hear, O Israel: YHVH our Elohim is one [Heb. echad] YHVH: Gen 41:25

And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh [who had had two dreams] is one [Heb. echad]: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do. The seven good kine are seven years; and the seven good ears are seven years: the dream is one [Heb. echad]. Gen 41:25

And I will give them one [Heb. echad] heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: Eze 11:19

And I will give them one [Heb. echad] heart, and one [Heb. echadway, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them. Jer 32:39

For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one [Heb. echad] breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity. Ecc 3:19

THE UNITY OF PERFECTION

YHVH is perfect; Y’shua is perfect.  Perfection cannot change because it cannot be improved upon.  Thus, if two like things are perfect, they are the same.


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10 thoughts on “THE DEITY OF Y’SHUA”

  1. Hi sue and John. If I thought Messiah and Son of God were synonyms for God then I would agree with you. Because scripture seems crystal clear that Yeshua is the Messiah the Son of the living God, but not crystal clear about Yeshua being God himself. They seem to have a supernatural relationship beyond my understanding and all I can do is read scripture and not be influenced by doctrines of men.

    Shalom, Scott

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    1. Hi, Scott! It is so good to hear from you! Perhaps one day you will send me a detailed and specific, scripturally supported explanation for your understanding of Y’shua’s nature. I would truly be interested in hearing it. In the meantime, suffice to say that I do not believe that there is a person on the planet who completely and clearly understands the relationship between the Father and the Son. I know I do not fully understand it! Nevertheless, as I said in my article, at this point everything seems to point to them being of the same nature. Looking forward to hearing back from you! Love to you and Geri 🙂

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      1. Since I believe Yeshua is the Messiah the son of the living God who is separate from the Father, here are some scriptures: Matthew 1:1 1:16 ; 1:18; 2:2; 2:15; 3:17; 6:5-6; 8:20; 8:29; 9:27; 10:32-33; 10:40; 11:25; 11:27; 12:49-50; 12:33; 16:15-17; 16:20; 16:27; 17:5; 19:17; 20:23; 21:10-11; 23:10; 24:36; 26:24; 26:39; 26:24; 26:39; 26:63-64; 27:11;27:22;27:40; 27:43;27:46;27:54;28:18-20; Mark 1:1; 1:10-11; 3::11;5:7;8:27-29;8:38;9:17;9:37;10:17-18;13:26;13:32;14:36;14:61-62;15:2;15:33;15:39;16:19 Luke 1:35; 2:26; 2:40;2:49;2:52; 3:22;4:3-4;5:23-24;6:12;7:16;9:18-21;9:26;9:34-35;9:48;10;16;10;21-22;11:13;12:8-9;12:32;18:18-19;18:38;21:36;22:29;22:42;23:2-3;23:35;23:46;24:19;24:26;24:46-47;24:49. John1:1;1:17;1:18;1:29;1:34;1:41;1:49;2:16;3:2; 3:13; 3:16-17; 3:35-36; 4:25-26; 4:34; 5:17; 5:19-21; 5:22-24;5:25-26;5:27; 5:30; 5:36-38; 5:45; 6:27; 6:28-29; 6:38-39; 6:40 ; 6:43-44; 6:46; 6:57; 6:65; 7:15; 7:28-29; 7:33; 8:16-18; 8:25-28; 8:29; 8:38; 8:40; 8:42; 8:49; 8:54-55; 9:4; 9:35-37; 10:15; 10:17-18; 10:24-29; 10:33-36; 10:37-38; 11:4; 11:27; 11:41-42; 12:26-28; 12:49-50; 13:1; 13:3; 13:13; 13:20; 13:31-32; 14:1-2;14:10-13; 14:16; 14:21; 14:23-24; 14:26; 14:28; 15:1; 15:8-10; 15:15; 15:21; 15:23; 15:26; 16:3; 16:5 16:27-28; 16:32; 17:1-3; 17:5; 17:8; 17:13; 17:18; 17:23-26; 18:39; 19:7; 19:19; 20:17; 20:21; 20:31
        Acts: 1:6-7; 2:22; 2:32-33; 2:38; 5:29-31; 5:42; 7:55-56; 9:20; 9:22; 9:34; 10:38; 10:40; 17:3; 17:31; 18:5; 18:28; 20:20-21; 26:23; 28:31

        There are alot more in the letters I could send if you want……

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        1. Thanks Scott 🙂 I will check these out of course. If I understand you correctly, these verses support the idea that Messiah is the Son of the Living God, a person separate from the Living God, and NOT divine. Is that correct?

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    1. Thanks, Scott. Sorry to be obtuse, but would you please give me your definitions of “divine” and “deity”? I think I may be understanding the two words differently than you do. Thanks 🙂

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  2. Hi Sue. Sometimes they are regarded as having the same meaning. but I think of deity as a God or being God. Since I don’t think Yeshua is God, but has all the attributes of the Father. Miracles and healing and forgiving sins.. All of YHWHs authority has been given to Yeshua. So divine in that sense, but I dont think he is God or I would be believing in two Gods. I believe he was separate from YHWH while on Earth. Scripture does not talk alot about his nature before he came and after he left Earth. But talks alot about his nature while on Earth. If I am 1% correct on my statements I am fortunate because the supernatural relationship between YHWH and Yeshua is hard to understand….

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